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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 8, 2007 7:47am
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speaking of #'s

i am becoming a tad despondent over the shrinking number seperating my beloved team's lead over the much hated skanks, errrr, i mean yanks

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Poster: staggerleib Date: Aug 8, 2007 8:27am
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Geez! Enough of the Sox, will ya?

Now, if you wanna talk the Cubbies, now that's a conversation I can hang with!

A little lean on the starting rotation, though you cannot deny Zambrano. A fair amount of hitting, but the loss of Soriano for a while may prove to be a significant blow. Kerry Wood as a middle reliever may just prove to be the right spot for him. As long as the Cards and the Brewers play like they have been, there just may be a division title coming to Chi Town!

Go Cubbies!

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 8, 2007 8:35am
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I am always rooting for the Cubbies. I have long thought that a Cubs/Sox series would be insane, probably bringing the highest ratings of any Series in the past decade. Go Cubbies indeed.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 8, 2007 8:40am
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im with SDH on this - Sox/Cubs Series would be awesome!!!

Love the Cubbies


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Poster: staggerleib Date: Aug 8, 2007 8:47am
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Let me preface by saying that my poor son is afflicted with it bad. He loves the Sox and the Cubs. He's destined to be disappointed for the rest of his life.

It seems as though Bosox fans and Cub fans are genetically linked. It may be that shared misery of September, and it may just be that fanatics are drawn to other fanatics.

Meanwhile, last summer, when Boston came to Wrigley to play a three game series, my Joey and I went to three games. The cubbies went two for three. It could not have turned out better for us. I believe that was the first time the red sox had played in Wrigley for 90+ years.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 8, 2007 8:58am
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that must have been awesome to catch those games with your son - truly a great experience!! there were many many eyes glued to the tv out here in Sox Nation during those "historic" meetings last year

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Poster: staggerleib Date: Aug 8, 2007 9:05am
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I have to liken it to when I saw Zappa and Garcia on the same stage at the Uptown.

Some of these seminal experiences stay with you forever.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Aug 8, 2007 1:43pm
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Forgive me, but I'm out of the loop on that one (although I've probably read about it and have since forgotten-I have a memory like a sieve). Garcia and Zappa at the Uptown-this was when?

And speaking as a Cardinal fan, the sad truth is you might not have to eat those words about a division title. This Milwaukee fluke of 2007 might be out of gas. As far as my boys are concerned, never count 'em out 'til you can count 'em out. Gotta tip the cap to Piniella, though. I think we're looking at National League Manager of the Year right there. Unless Milwaukee isn't a fluke after all. If they go all the way (and we have WAY too much baseball left to be certain of anything), then Yost is the man. Of course, he'll have to get in a fist-fight with Lou to keep the title, but that should go without saying.

Seriously, Piniella has a reputation for being one of the most affable guys in the game, but he's never one to be trifled with, either.

This post was modified by BryanE on 2007-08-08 20:43:42

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Poster: staggerleib Date: Aug 9, 2007 6:12am
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They didn't play simultaneously, but first a zappa set, then a garcia set. Uptown theatre, Chicago. I think it was somewhere around 1980. don't hold me to the dates though, the whole high school experience was pretty foggy...

M

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Poster: BryanE Date: Aug 9, 2007 6:58am
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Not holding you to it at all, but you got me curious and I started digging around and it looks like that show actually took place on 8/18/84 at the U of I Pavilion, not the Uptown. According to The Jerry Site- http://www.thejerrysite.com/new-index.jsp
-the only time he played The Uptown without the Dead was 11/17/81 with an early and late show. On that particular night, Frank was doing a show at The Ritz in NYC.

I never had the pleasure of seeing anything at The Uptown, but the other Head on my floor during freshman year of 1980 at SIU-Carbondale started that fall after having just seen the Dead's summertime Uptown run. One of those shows has my all-time favorite Morning Dew. The audience is a little noisy toward the beginning of this recording, but by the end, the band truly soars!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd80-08-20.naks.munder.8740.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: staggerleib Date: Aug 9, 2007 7:27am
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The Pavillion, of course you're right.

I saw a lot of shows at the Uptown. I hold a huge emotional attachment for that venue. My first GD show was there in 77. I did see the 81 show there as well, but you're correct, the FZ/JGB show was at the Pavillion. Not great acoustics, but better than what was then known as the Horizon.

On a side note, they are attempting to get funding to rebuild the Uptown. It was beautiful in its day, with beautifully crafted moldings, and wonderful acoustics. By 77, when i saw that first dead show, it smelled pretty bad, and the seats were awful. We didn't sit anyway. The beauty was how intimate it was. Great shows, a great venue.

Thanks for that little trip (no pun intended) down memory lane.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Aug 9, 2007 8:37am
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Yeah, those Uptown shows are the stuff of legend.

Big kind of ad hoc movement in a lot of cities across the country to restore the classic theaters of yore. Problem is those old places often prove to be HUGE money pits.

The Horizon? Would that be the Rosemont Horizon? What a barn. Saw a couple there-now, don't hold ME to these dates, but I think they were in '81 and '95.

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Poster: staggerleib Date: Aug 9, 2007 9:43am
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They played the Horizon in March of '94. To me, those later dates were disappointing. I did get to Soldier Field in '94 because Traffic was opening. But for me, the crowds had become simply untenable.

I hate to sound like an old fogey, and I know that I do, but 64,000 people at a show was simply too much. The music still held me, but the party was not for me by then. That being said, I would have seen Jerry solo anywhere. For some reason, the JGB felt a much more intimate scene. Even at the Bradley Center, in Milwaukee, which is reasonably large, the crowd was more manageable, and less aggressive.

Boy, I used to love the Parking Lot. The summer would not have been complete without the Alpine Valley shows.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Aug 9, 2007 10:47am
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I saw them at Soldier with Traffic, too. I can understand how you felt about the enormity of the crowd towards the end, and you echo the sentiments expressed by many, but I guess that never really bothered me all that much. Some, but not much. Part of me really felt happy for the Dead that they continued to reach more and more people every year. The first time I ever saw them I was in the middle of a stadium audience in '76, so that kind of setting never felt uncomfortable to me. I was never able to see a show anywhere that was especially intimate, so to speak. The closest I ever got to that was in '86 when my girlfriend was set to buy tickets on the first day of sales for their long-awaited return to the Fox in St. Louis. That turned out to be the day Jerry went into a diabetic coma.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Aug 9, 2007 11:02am
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Oh, and by the way, Cubs and Brewers (huge loss to the Rockies yesterday) have been idle in the standings for the past couple of days, but the Cardinals have been turning things back around since last week's dreadful road trip. Only six games back now, so look out!

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Poster: staggerleib Date: Aug 9, 2007 11:41am
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Now who was it who said yesterday that as distasteful as it is, I fear the Cards right now. Hopefully, this is just a periodic bump in the road for the cubbies. Next week will tell a lot. Cubs-Cards, then Brewers-Cards. Could be a huge swing. Could also put it out of reach for the Cards.

Bleed Blue.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Aug 10, 2007 7:23am
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Addendum-

A transcript of the notorious Lee Elia tirade from 1983 (recommended for mature audiences):

http://www.speakeasy.org/~bucky/elia_tirade.html

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Poster: BryanE Date: Aug 10, 2007 6:36am
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stagger-

I'm replying about the YouTube video in this thread because it will be less likely to start a feud on this page. It was Steve Goodman doing A Dying Cub Fan's Last Request, and the replies in the other thread read like the other guys totally missed the point, going into that exchange about the whole Steve Bartman interference incident, completely irrelevant to the song. You probably have to be a Cub fan (or at least somebody who watched Cub games in the 70's and 80's) to fully appreciate it anyway. I hope you're familiar with the song, but if you're not, you need to make a point of somehow getting a copy of it
because it is truly a jewel. Here are the words, for posterity's sake if nothing else:

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/poetry/po_cubs.shtml

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Poster: staggerleib Date: Aug 10, 2007 7:27am
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Of course I know the song. I've actually seen Steve Goodman in concert. Another loss to the music world.

I don't think that the Bartman thing effected anything. I think that they cubs lost that series because they couldn't hold it together.

The folk scene in chicago was a wonderful thing. Steve Goodman, John Prine, Fred and Ed Holstein, and my all time favorite folkie: Jim Post. What a voice.

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Poster: sparky999255 Date: Aug 8, 2007 7:37pm
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Speaking of the Cubbies check out this Lee Elia (then Cubs manager) postgame press conference audio from 1983:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv23pqH9iG0

One of the funniest things I've heard in a long time. By the way this clip contains a whole mess of profanities...so take whatever precautions you deem necessary.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Aug 8, 2007 8:07am
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Being a Bosox fan is not a pre-qualification for forum membership, so I've sat silently by watching the posts, waiting for October.

Here's a quote worth remembering in that vein;

"they are toast man - they have zero pitching and zero pen - yes they have bats - but they wont even catch cleveland for the wildcard"

"they are DONE"

(In October there may very well be a thread entitiled "Wolf Eats Crow." )

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 8, 2007 8:17am
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that was really mean throwing that back in my face man ;)

(boy, do i have a big mouth)

the only saving grace has been the yanks have been playing lots of cellar dwelling teams lately while we have not - and we are still playing .500 plus ball.

all is not lost and there will be NO SUCH OCTOBER POST!!!!!! :)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 8, 2007 8:28am
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Hang in there brother, we shall overcome! Its time to gird our loins (easy, GOP, that is a figure of speech, not a plan for the weekend) and prepare for battle. If we can hold on to first until the three game series with the Spankees August 28-30, we shall then see who wants it more.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Aug 8, 2007 9:25am
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Guard our lions? Gourd our loans? Huh? Isn't it a little hot out for that sort of thing? %

But I'm a #$*^@%#*! Yankees fan. Born and raised. See you in October: not you *%#*#@^$&@#^ Bostonite. %

I've decided that % = nerds.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 8, 2007 9:35am
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you wont even see the wildcard

go indians/tigers!!!

This post was modified by direwolf0701 on 2007-08-08 16:35:30

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Aug 8, 2007 9:37am
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There's a lot of things I won't see. But that is only because am blind.

Oh--SDH--I get it: lard your groin!

Hey: 2005, Sept 11, I went "home" to catch a Sox-Yankees game with an old, old, buddy. Bottom of the first, Jason (I didn't do it) Giambi smacked one into the right field bleachers. That was the whole game.

Flight to New York: $200.
Hotel Room: $200.
Ticket to game $100.

Seeing the Yankees/Sox: worthless.

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Poster: sel2ims Date: Aug 8, 2007 12:50pm
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....but what about larding your groin, did you get a chance to do that on the subway ?

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Poster: Dimwit Date: Aug 8, 2007 4:16pm
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I think you're the only guy on this whole forum that asks for details about what another guy is doing with his twig and berries.
And why don't you use your smi2les handle? I don't know, your new name just seems kind of backwards.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 8, 2007 8:01am
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Too true. I though September was going to be the interesting month. Well thanks to the annual Sox Summer Swoon, looks like this month will be a nail-biter unless we start playing again. The Boston Pessimist in me doesn't like what's going on at the moment.